goose
5:37 Wed Sep 22
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hahaha irony over load.
when you find yourself on the same side of a discussion as Swiss and Come on Benrahma you know its time to get professional help.
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Swiss.
5:26 Wed Sep 22
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Come On You Irons 3:36 Wed Sep 22
Exactly. A lot of thick mongs like Goose on here who are a sucker for political sound bites with no substance behind them.
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WHU(Exeter)
4:30 Wed Sep 22
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Could see him in a remake of Carry on at your convenience, the most underrated of all the Carry On films.
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Northern Sold
4:17 Wed Sep 22
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Make a good shop steward would Gaz....
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Mike Oxsaw
3:57 Wed Sep 22
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goose 3:43 Wed Sep 22
Do you not think it would be a good idea to identify WHY people are struggling before rowing yourself into the debate?
Some might be struggling because they missed out on education, some because the industry they were working in no longer exists, some because they are lazy fucks convinced that the world owes them a living (and free access to everything they see advertised on TV to underline that belief).
There will never be a one-size-fits-all solution, but the government line seems to be that because they can't solve it all (with a soundbite) they needn't bother trying to solve any of it.
Neville (& people like him) are showing that it can be done selectively, and I'd have no objection to the government picking up the tab - but at least 10 years down the line to deter get-rich-quick chancers.
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goose
3:43 Wed Sep 22
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what were you expecting? a white paper?
or are you saying it isnt a problem and we all just carry on?
you can pretend that people arent struggling and continue to lie to people on an anonymous website about your made up life.
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Side of Ham
3:41 Wed Sep 22
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Exactly Mike, and it takes the Gary Nevilles with strong public views to show the government up by funding their own projects that work for the people and in turn showing governments up across all parties as this is not a new issue.
Wealthy people need to be seen to be breaking down barriers if they want to hold strong public views on people in need of a voice.
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Come On You Irons
3:36 Wed Sep 22
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All just empty slogans.
Revamp tax codes. What does that mean? If you want to tax the rich more, just say it.
Re-work the benefits system. Again, that means nothing.
Better education. Yeah, what a great, groundbreaking policy. No one ever thought of improving education before!
As previously established. You're full of shit, goose.
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Mike Oxsaw
3:35 Wed Sep 22
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Side of Ham 3:20 Wed Sep 22
How many poor people will the new Royal Yacht help?
How many poor people will HS2 help?
And while we're on transport, how many POOR people is the new Northern Line extension to the Battersea Power Station (soon-to-be-gated, if it's not already) community helping?
The government can find the money to spend on anything, it seems, except projects that directly help the UK poor.
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goose
3:31 Wed Sep 22
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revamp tax codes
re-work the benefits system
better education - geared towards trades and future industries
that enough for you?
meanwhile you can keep seeking the validation of strangers to try and prove (or just pretend) you are a success.
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Side of Ham
3:20 Wed Sep 22
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Mike Oxsaw 2:54 Wed Sep 22
Because he's made it clear by his own public statements the government needs to do something about and they are not, that costs and poorer people who need the change won't be able to fund it and the government will want to sweep it under the counter and if he's so noble about it he will willingly fund it.
We want more Dr Barnados types, who don't wait around for governments to get their arse in gear and there are plenty of wealthy loud people with strong views to fund these things.
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Mike Oxsaw
3:19 Wed Sep 22
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Why the fuck does it need a change in the LAW?
I suspect the laws we already have are fine - the right people just lack the enthusiasm to address the issue as it's of no personal benefit to them or their friends & family.
Don't give a man a fish, give him a fishing rod and instructions on how to use it. Let Darwin take care of those that spurn the chance.
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Come On You Irons
3:13 Wed Sep 22
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goose wrote: Neville giving away money doesn’t solve inequality, that needs changes in laws etc etc.
And you've just confirmed in your last post you can't think of a change in the law that would help, so would prefer to moan and leave the problem to others to 'sort out'. Thanks for confirming you're all talk and no action, just like Neville, Rashford and Lineker!
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goose
3:09 Wed Sep 22
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Its clearly not an easily solved problem - hence why it hasn't been solved. One change in law won't solve a problem.
Because it's not easy to solve do we just all give up?
I'd much rather be all the things you listed then be some cunt who makes up stuff on an anonymous website just for some weird form of validation.
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Mike Oxsaw
3:00 Wed Sep 22
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"I couldn't give a shit about the plight of people who choose to remain in the gutter. "
Of course not.
Even those in the gutter will need an umbrella at some point in their life.
Every little helps in getting that six-figure OTE salary.
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Come On You Irons
2:58 Wed Sep 22
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goose, give us a suggestion of a policy or "law" that would help to address inequality and then we might take you seriously. Otherwise you just come across as a wet, lily-livered, do-gooding, holier-than-thou cunt like Lineker, Rashford and Neville.
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goose
2:56 Wed Sep 22
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Ok. So because it’s always been a problem let’s not bother trying to make things better.
Your opinions on inequality are about as authentic as your “6 figure salary”.
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Mike Oxsaw
2:54 Wed Sep 22
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Why should he "heavily fund" - or even fund at all - a campaign to make the government aware of a problem about which they are already aware?
People need to be given the chance to work themselves, not be bought, out of poverty.
Proper training for productive jobs and careers is what is needed - but that puts at risk the careers of many who make a living out of there being an underclass (and gives those on a six-figure salary less people to look down upon and sneer at).
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Come On You Irons
2:50 Wed Sep 22
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So what changes in laws would magically solve the problem of inequality?
Inequality has existed since time immemorial and people in the UK today have the best opportunities ever afforded to people in this country. It is why economic migrants migrate here in hoards.
If you work hard and strive in life you can rise up from the gutter or from humble originals. Most people who are failures in life and bemoan inequality are work shy freeloaders. And most millionaire 'celebrities' who bemoan inequality are insecure, do-gooding, snowflake, look at me hypocrites.
As I'm not a communist, I couldn't give a shit about the plight of people who choose to remain in the gutter.
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Side of Ham
2:47 Wed Sep 22
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I think then if he has these strong views he should heavily fund a campaign to change the law accordingly.......as always I think 'the people' want actions not words they've heard time and time again......otherwise he'll eventually get ignored......
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Block
2:47 Wed Sep 22
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Seems that way, goose.
What people forget, is that people like Neville and many other sports people came from very shit backgrounds.
I'd say they've had the best of both worlds and I'd listen to more what they say than the silver spooned cunts at the Houses of Parliament.
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